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Two Years in Pakistan
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Recorded: May 21, 2009 Posted: May 21
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I'm SO awesome! wrote on 05/21/2009  at  10:51 PM
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awesome interview. thanks a bunch to both of you. i've seen video of that area where they make their own guns from scratch....it's INSANE!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9xf62PKC5M
probably not the place you were talking about but close enough. also, i never realized the unfortunate political implications of an afghan pullout. if obama leaves and we get hit then that'll hand control back to the reps. too bad we'll never get outta there now.
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opposable_crumbs wrote on 05/22/2009  at  12:35 AM
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Really illuminating diavlog, and great chemistry between two army brats. I hope a repeat performance is not too long in the waiting.
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BornAgainDemocrat wrote on 05/22/2009  at  02:17 AM
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I wonder if Pakistan even has nuclear weapons. Supposedly we turned a blind eye to their nuclear program back in the 80's while the Soviet Invasion of Afganistan was going on, and no doubt Pakistan needed to be perceived by India to have nuclear weapons for purposes of deterrence. On the other hand, Israel seems awfully relaxed about the Pakistani threat. Maybe they know a little secret.
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mmacklem wrote on 05/22/2009  at  07:29 AM
Some dingalink highlights
Bob is a compliment-distributing machine
Yeah, yeah, a likely story...
Freudian wingnuttery?
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Stapler Malone wrote on 05/22/2009  at  11:00 AM
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Quoting BornAgainDemocrat: I wonder if Pakistan even has nuclear weapons...
Ok, whatever you say
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chainlink wrote on 05/22/2009  at  02:21 PM
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Schmidle says that
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uncle ebeneezer wrote on 05/22/2009  at  02:36 PM
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Updated news on Swat:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
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tuyararu wrote on 05/23/2009  at  01:45 PM
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Fascinating discussion. It's interesting to see someone come up with the raison d'etre for Pakistan being "Well we don't want to be THEM!" and have that override national policy for so long.
I'm not sure any security guarantees will do any good as long as a national identity independent of an oppositional one (Why we're Pakistan, vs. Why We're not India) takes root in the collective consciousness. Neighboring India has its own fissiparous tendencies, but also a strong national identity, esecially in its educated and middle classes.
But that sort of stuff takes some pride in things other than military achievements, and economic development as well. Quite a change from an attitude of "Our people might eat grass for decades, but we'll get the bomb" that Bhutto inculcated.





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